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2020 Subaru Legacy

Discussion in 'General Automotive Talk' started by Andrew B., Jun 9, 2019.

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    I don't know if you are still here, but I'll post this anyway. It looks like the 2020 Subaru Legacy will be on the universal platform used by it's other vehicle along with the engine from the Forester. According to Subaru it will be quieter and with a better ride, due to platform rigidity.

    You might be shocked to hear this but I'm going to actually start test-driving cars. I finally got it squared away in my head that it makes sense to get a new car, even though I only put on about 500 miles per year, most of which are with me in the passenger seat. It all comes down to safety and comfort. And so I finally dug deeper into how to use the Consumer Reports website to focus on three main points: ride, noise, and reliability. This put the Subaru way up there. So that's what I will look at first. Of course, this will be a 2019 I'm testing, and from what I understand they are heavily discounted because sales will drop as people wait for the 2020. But that 2020 interior sure looks sweet. So I might wait to actually buy. The thing is though I have to get out and get started now so I can at least familiarize myself with what's going on, even if I end up buying next year.
     
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    Nice. That can be exciting. I would definitely stsrt looking at them now so you know what as much about the 19bas you can before hand.

    I didn't hear that they were changing it. I need to look that up. How many models will they use the new platform on?

    James
     
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    I don't remember the details, but I think the new universal platform is already in use on other models. And for all I know, the Legacy could be the last one to get it.

    Sort of interesting to be shopping for a car and dependent on someone else to drive me to the car lot.
     
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    That would be a different experience. Is that the only car on your list to check out?

    James
     
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    The main three on the list are Legacy, Impala, and Avalon. What's interesting about the Impala and Avalon is they are no wider than the Legacy, even though Legacy is mid-sized and Impala and Avalon are full-size. They are a little longer, though, but not by much. Then I'll have to figure it out after that. One thing I hate in modern cars is the center arm rest. I don't want my arm up and out to the side. So I'll have to see how this goes.
     
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    I finally got to go out and look. The Chevy dealer said there are no more Impalas. I had read somewhere that GM had reversed their decision to discontinue these, at least for awhile. But maybe that dealer will not be getting any more. Anyway, because that short visit didn't wear me out, I moved onto Toyota Avalon. I could not warm up to it. I think I just feel more comfortable with mid-size cars.

    So now my list has changed. It now contains Legacy, Mazda6 and Passat.

    One thing that concerns me is the 2020 Legacy will use different building methods. I always wonder if it's better to wait for them to get the bugs out.
     
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    Just checked cars.com and there are over 3000 2019 Impalas. 1 2020. Maybe there isn't any available.

    Some are afraid of first model runs. For me it depends on a lot of things. I believe my motorcycle was the first year if a redesign. That was good. Have bought all used since and i don't think any were first year models. My first Jeep was had second year of a new interior and first year for a new engine. There was an engine issue for that year but not on mine. And they gave a long extension on that part so i felt fine.

    So that is a tough call. I would test all three and then see if it is still on your list. If it is, i would see if you like it enough to not care about that.

    Anyone i know with the new Mazdas seem really happy with them so far.

    James
     
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    Thanks for the ideas. You got me thinking. I looked on Chevrolet's website and found some Impalas at a different dealership. Also, if I'm worried about the 2020 Subaru, there will probably be some 2019 left over to pick from. And as you suggested, I should just go look and see what's left when I'm done.
     
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    Have you checked anything else out?

    Question. What didn't you like about the Avolon. I'm always interested in what people like and dislike about different vehicles.

    James
     
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    I expected to have at least three cars checked by now, but all I have is one. It all depends on whether I have someone here to help me. And also if something else comes up that keep me from going. So, for example, someone will be here Friday to help me but I have to stay home to sign for a medication that's being mailed to me. And i has been one thing after another since I checked the Avalon.

    As for why I didn't like the Avalon, it looked big and unappealing and it just didn't feel right to drive. But then again, I've yet to drive a Toyota anything I liked. But after I test all the cars I have to try to think practically. The most appealing car might not be the most practical one.

    BTW, I checked inventory for the local Subaru dealer and they have one or more 2020 in stock. I don't remember how many.
     
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    I have take back what I said about never driving a Toyota I liked. I just remembered that I liked the Cressida. I would have bought one in a heartbeat if I had had the money. It seemed to be just right. Some call it a luxury car, but I felt no luxury there. Nor did it feel like large car. It was not like driving a barge. It was just a practically-sized car. The Corolla was the small car. The Camry was, well, I'm not sure what. When I heard they were going to pull the Cressida and have the Camry be their top end I thought they were nuts. Especially with how well the Cressida was selling. I guess they were trying to clear the way for the Lexus.

    Anyway, I drove an Accord today, and I think I'm also nuts. I'm not in good health, I'm on a new chemo drug, it was 94 degrees outside, and I had no caregiver to help me. I guess I got bored, and fed up waiting. I feel okay now, but how I feel tomorrow will be the real test.

    But I do have an opinion on it. It felt cramped. Maybe, in part, because it has a double-wide center console. Not enough room left to easily attach my set belt. And the back of the drivers seat seemed a tad flat and hard. The brakes were good. I had to be careful not to brake too hard, after what I'm used to in my 1994 Mazda. The engine feels adequate. I think it's a 1500 turbo. But the tight fit in the driver's compartment felt like a step down from my Mazda 626. So it's out of the running.

    One more thing: I learned something about car shopping. Never drop in. I dropped into a VW dealer last week and was told it would take almost an hour get the car from the storage lot. It was blocked in with new arrivals that had not yet been processed. So I left. And I also learned today that calling ahead is not enough. She told me it would be there in an hour and when I arrived it was not there. Next time I'm not going to go unless they tell me it is there and ready to go.
     
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    I haven't been in the latest Accord. In a way I'm surprised it felt cramped but in a way I'm not. What trim level did you drive? How was the suspension?

    I remember the Cressida. I don't think i ever drove one. You could be right on why they dropped it.

    Some dealerships can be weird. I went in to test drive a Jeep TJ years ago. The guy took forever to find keys. Came out about 10 mins later saying he couldn't find the keys to the one i wanted tk drive. Wanted to show me a sport when i wanted to drive a Rubicon. They had different suspensions so I wanted to test out the one i wanted which was a Rubicon. I also wanted to test one with the upgraded stereo to see if it was worth the cost. He brings out the keys to one without the upgrade.

    On top of all that he tried to tell me the Rubicon was just a sticker package. I said you are charging $4000+ for stickers? Then i listed off all of the differences between the models. Test drove a sport because i was there but his lack of knowledge turned me off that dealership. If i bought one there it wouldn't have been from him. He could have read the brochure 3 or 4 times in the time it took to find keys to something i didn't ask to drive. Know your product.

    Well it is good you were able to get out. I hope you are not suffering today because of it.

    James
     
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    That is very bad. I think you got one of the worst. When I bought my Mazda I had already been to that dealer once before and spoke with a different salesman. I know some places have this thing about giving the first sales contact credit, so I let the new salesman know who had helped me.. He told me that the other salesman was a lousy salesman and that I'm better off with him (the new guy). I must say, I admired his brashness. And despite this bit of attitude, he was a great salesman and I bought the car that day. He was so good that years later when I was window shopping the new models, I told the general manager how good the guy was. Turns out the guy who sold to me was the sales manager.

    As for the Accord, I drove the EX. I wanted to check out the Honda Sensing safety features. But while I was driving I forgot to ask. And now I think I should have driven the LX, which is the lowest level of trim. And also the level of trim that has the a higher profile tire than the other trims. As you pointed out, low profile tires have harder ride.

    Anyway, I think my cramped feeling is, in part, because I can't stand tall center consoles that force you to put you arm on them. Drive me nuts. And as for the ride of the EX, it was okay but nothing impressive.

    I read that Honda automatic clutches don't do will in stop and go traffic. They respond in a vague way. I read the same thing about Passat. So when I test that one I'll have to look for this. In fact, I should pay more attention to this in all cars.
     
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    My wife worked at a furniture store and the sales person that made first contact got the sale (or half if someone helps). It's good when you have a good salesperson. Not so good when you have a bad one. I disliked that guy enough to pick a different dealership.

    Had one at another dealership when i was looking at vans. She was good to deal with and knew everything about her product.

    The higher profile tires will give a more comfortable ride. You lose a bit handling wise but that isn't what you are looking for.

    I haven't heard that about the Honda's. Is that the latest generation?

    James
     
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    I don't know what generation they are in. The year, though, was 2019.
     
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