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Der Supra: East Meets West in the Toyota/BMW Sports-Car Partnership

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    From the April 2015 issue
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    You can see why Toyota and BMW would choose the code name “Silk Road” to describe their collaborative effort to build a new generation of sports cars. East meets West and all that. We will forgive the companies the minor historical inaccuracy—the Silk Road trade route never extended to Japan or Germany—because we greatly prefer sports cars to silk. And this alliance will result in the next BMW Z4 and the return of Toyota’s long-lost Supra.

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    According to leaks out of Germany, the Supra coupe will appear in two years as a 2018 model. Why would the Germans be leaking Supra details? Because underneath the Toyota-specific body will be mounted a turbocharged inline-six BMW engine. And, if that’s not enough sacrilege, the coupe’s rear-drive chassis will be developed largely by BMW, too.

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    So what will Toyota contribute to the party, other than the body? Well, money, for one. Toyota also will let BMW in on some of its expertise in inexpensive hybrid technology, although there’s currently no indication that the Silk Road cars will offer hybrid options. BMW will certainly develop a four-cylinder variant for the Z4 while Toyota is unlikely to offer the smaller engine.

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    Toyota tipped its hand on the Supra’s styling with the FT-1 concept car it unveiled at the Detroit auto show in 2014. With its Viper-like dimensions, the FT-1 concept is larger than the eventual production car will be. Scale the concept down about 10 percent or scale the current Z4 up a bit and you’re in the realm.

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    There were early rumors that the Toyota-BMW cooperation also would result in a replacement for the slow-selling Scion FR-S, but it’s hard to imagine Toyota seeing enough demand in the U.S. for two distinct rear-drive performance coupes. That noted, the platform should have enough powertrain and dimensional flexibility to be used for other BMW variations and possibly a Lexus model.

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    You don't like it? I think it is very interesting. I'm shocked by the look of it since I find Toyota to be too plan and they don't take too many chances. I'm not sure about the nose. I can't decide if I love it or dislike it. Just depends on what I focus on.

    All that being said, I feel that they will calm down the production car and it will be far less exciting to me. Maybe they will prove me wrong.

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    No, I don't like it. It bugs me. It just looks kind of off to me. I mean, I want to like it, because I like both BMW and Toyota cars, but this is just like the wrong mix. Like trying to breed an apple with a piece of bread, it's like, what are we doing here? The combination of the two is throwing me off. Like having an itch you can't reach. It's bugging me.

    Like you said, maybe they will "calm down" the production car. I'll be interested to see what it looks like, but still...
     
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    If Toyota stays with what they have been doing it will look nothing like that. It will end up looking like a two door Camry with a spoiler. I hope they do it just the way it is. Shake things up a bit.

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    I just hope they forget the whole idea altogether. I'm not comfortable on any level with a BMW-Toyota partnership.
     
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    If they make something that looks like that I'm all for it.

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