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Smoothest and Quietest Rides (under $40 thousand)

Discussion in 'General Automotive Talk' started by Andrew B., Jan 17, 2014.

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  1. Andrew B.

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    I'm in bad health and every bump in the road feels much worse to me. Same with noise. So I'm looking for the smoothest and quietest cars under $40,000. The other thing is I need to be able to recline in the passenger seat while someone else drives.

    I won't be putting a lot of mileage on this, so I'm open to used cars too.
     
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    Ford Fiesta might be a good choice. it gets good gas milage and is a pretty smooth ride for the most part.
     
  3. Flexin

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    Welcome to Gearhead Central @Andrew B.

    I have some questions.

    What are you driving now that isn't doing the job?

    Are you looking at all cars or just a full size, compact and so on?

    Are sound levels and comfort the only features that matter (other then the reclining seat) or is there more.

    Are you in the US? $40000 goes father there then it does in Canada so it changes the list of cars.

    For used cars, how old is too old and what is the maximum mileage you would want on it? Would you want it to still have warranty left on it?

    James
     
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    I think there are many choices for that amount of money. Of course if it's 40,000 USD. With that much money, you can easily get a luxury car that offers comfort and performance. BMW, Audi, Cadillac are some brands that have great comfort.
     
  5. Andrew B.

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    Thanks for asking. I guess I wasn't thinking this through enough. So now I'll try to narrow it down.

    What are you driving now that isn't doing the job?

    A 1994 Mazda 626. I've had it twenty years, and it's great to drive, but too rough a ride for me these days.

    Are you looking at all cars or just a full size, compact and so on?

    I've always favored mid-sized four-door sedans, but I'm willing to go larger if it means more comfort.. I don't like anything other than four doors because I need a door to the back seat. And I favor more leg room. I always have my seat back all the way, and even with that I feel like I would want it back further. And now that I'm thinking about this more, I need super comfortable seats. I don't favor small cars because they don't give me enough room.

    What if found years ago when testing cars is a larger car doesn't always have more leg room. And smoother ride or less noise cannot always be found in the more expensive cars. Some are aimed more the near-GT market, and they let more engine noise and stiffness be there for the GT experience.

    One thing that helps me a lot is if my legs can stretch out instead of hanging down, as they do with vans and SUVs. It has to do with my circulation.

    Are sound levels and comfort the only features that matter (other then the reclining seat) or is there more.

    Other than what I mentioned above, I'm trying not keep an open mind so I will consider a car I might have overlooked before.

    Are you in the US? $40000 goes father there then it does in Canada so it changes the list of cars.

    I'm in the U.S.

    For used cars, how old is too old and what is the maximum mileage you would want on it? Would you want it to still have warranty left on it?

    I'm not sure about this. I have not looked at cars in so long I don't know how long they generally run before they become expensive to keep up. But based on just my gut feeling, I would say less than four years old and less than 35,000 miles. As for warranty, I would want at least some kind of dealer warranty in case it's a stealth clunker.

    One other thing. I often have to take taxi cabs to places nearby. They are either Ford Crown Victoria or small Toyotas. I feel very comfortable in the Crown Victoria. Part of it is the seats are so comfortable, but the other part is the smoother ride. I'd prefer, though, to not get a car that big and boat-like. I still drive once in awhile and I would have a hard time parking it. I think, though, most cars are not that big anymore and some manage to offer a lot of comfort without having suspensions that float. Not sure though. I have not kept up with what's happening in the auto world.

    Oh, one more thing. I want to avoid cars that are on the top 10 most stolen car lists. I live in a city where car theft is not rare. But I can look that up myself and eliminate any suggestions that fall on that list.
     
  6. Flexin

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    Your welcome.

    Your 94 Mazda 626 has (Front Legroom (in.) 43.20). So since leg room is important, I won't bother suggesting something with much less then that. Comfort is a personal thing. My mother is really picky about seat comfort. She can end up in pain for days in the wrong seat too long. From what I remember she liked the seats in the Oldsmobile Intrigue I owned. So did my wife and I. My wife and mother like the seats in the 2010 Toyota Corolla we have. I don't like them at all. The only good thing I can say about them is that the drives seat is that he base can be raised in the front. I don't know why I like this but it makes it a bit more comfortable for me.

    I'm guessing you are taller then me so we need a different amount of leg room. I like leg room as well but might not need as much. I'm not big on small cars because of that and other things.

    What I would do if you have the time is to get a lot of suggestions like you are doing and then spend some time test driving cars. That is the best way to see if the ride and sound levels meet your standards. I think I have driven a 626 around the same age as yours (use to own a detail shop). I think most newer cars would be quieter then that unless it is designed to let in certain noises like you said.

    One thing I will mention about comfort is the wheels. Things have changed since 1994 when you bought your car. I'm sure you noticed this. Standard rim sizes are larger then the optional rims back then. This means lower profile tires which are great for handling but not always great for comfort. They can transfer the feel of the smallest groves, rocks and bumps into the car. You can feel and hear this in some cars. Going with the smaller tire will save you money on the car and replacement tires, but also should cut down on road noises. So while I love the 18-20" wheels, you might be better off with the 16-17" bigger cars. Unless its a small car and then you should be looking at the model with the 15".

    Some of the cars I would look at are...

    2014 Buick Regal. It has a starting price of $30000 which is good. I have heard great things about the new Buicks. The leg room is a little lower at 42.1" but it is close enough to put on the list I think. With a 6 year 70000 mile warranty you won't have to worry about repairs for a good while. Since you don't drive a lot it sounds like you will get the full 6 years.

    2014 Lincoln MKZ. Base of $36000 is near the top of your budget. The leg room is 44.30" so it gives you a little more room to stretch out.

    2014 Chysler 300. This is one car I have drove a few times and I love it. From what I remember it is quite (couldn't hear much over the nice stereo system so that is one thing I do remember). The base is $30000 which is great but the leg room might come in a bit short for you at 41.2". I think the car is at least a quick look. Even just to sit in it to see how it feels. If it passes that test it should be driven. I drove this with the 20" rims from what I remember and the ride was great. I think for you it might but fine but might be more inline with what your looking for with the 17" wheels.

    2014 Acura TSX. This starts at $30000 and has 42.2" of legroom. I haven't been in the 2014 but I did drive a 05 or 06 I believe. It was a nice car and I don't remember road noise being an issue.

    2014 Ford Fusion. With a base of $22000 and legroom of 44.3", I think this car is worth the look. My in laws have the model before it and it is a nice car. I think the newest ones look even better.

    I found a list of top leg room for mid sized cars and It was the Hyundai Sonata 45.5", Kia Optima 45.5" and Nissan Altima 45" coming in as 1st, 2nd and 3rd. The Fusion was 4th. Hyundai as come a long way and I know a lot of happy owners but for me I'm not sold on them yet. I guess I still remember the Hyundai Pony. But they would be worth a look. The Kia is a brand that hasn't won me over. When the Sorento came out I was interested because it was way lower then anything in its class for price. It wasn't bad but I'm glad I didn't go with it. They have come a long way since then. The Optima is the one car in there line up that catches my eye. It gets great reviews. I want to test drive one sometime and see what they are like.

    Another car I would look at is the Hyundai Genesis. I know what I said about my feelings about Hyundai but the Genesis almost makes me forget about all that. (Even with my odd feelings for the name plate, the brand does get good reviews) My friend @Doug Carter sold Hyundai for a little while and I remember him being impressed with them. Maybe he will jump in here and give his opinion about their line up and if any of them fit what you are looking for. The Genesis is about $36000 in the US and has about 44.3" of legroom.

    Two cars that would be worth checking out are the Accord 42.5" and Camry 41.6". The Accord has been a good car for a long time and so has the Camry. I find that Toyota's lack excitement but they are good cars. The Camry might be a bit low for you in legroom on paper. The Mazda 6 42.4" might also be worth a look. You have owned your Mazda for 20 years now. I looked at buying one in the mid 2000 range. It was brand new. One of the major things that stopped me from buying that was some of the interior trim pieces that I didn't think would hold up finish wise and the lack of torque which bothered me.

    The use market opens up a lot of possibilities. Mercedes E class, BMW 5 series, Cadilliac, Audi and so on. The Marcedes CLS and C class would be in your range new and I think they would be worth a look. The BMW 3 series and Audi A4 would be in range new as well. You might even find some deals as the 2015's roll out.

    One more car I would look at is the Volkswagen CC. I love the look of that car and the leg room isn't too far of most of the normal cars at 41.6".

    Those are the cars that I would look at myself. I would think that there would have to be one in that list that would make you happy. If you have the time and patience I would look over the list and compare features and so on. Then knock off ones that just don't do it for you. Then I would take the list of ones that are left (even the ones your not too sure about) and test them out. For some you might even have to look at a different trim level because they can have different seats which can make a big difference. Maybe even walk in and tell them you want to look at one of each seat style. You need to find the one that fits your body right so it is worth the extra little time. And for some it will only take a few minutes adjusting the seat to realize that that one may or may not be worth even test driving. Have fun with it.

    One last thing. I can't believe I forgot to mention the Infiniti G37. I drove some of the G35's and they were great driving cars. I would put that high on the list as well.

    James
     
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    I appreciate all the cars you have listed. I've already started reading reviews on them. One thing I'm noticing is a trend toward stiffer rides. Two cars I looked into made the latest model year stiffer. This makes sense if you also get better handling. And I guess one way to make up for this is softer seats. But I doubt they do this.

    Your comments about wheel size were also very helpful. I didn't know that. I'll stay away from those options.

    One interesting thing about leg room figures. They are not always accurate. I remember testing a Passat 6 or 7 years ago. There was enough leg room that I didn't have the seat back all the way. But it was listed as having the same leg room as other cars where I had to put the seat all the way back.

    What I'll do is try to narrow it as much as possible before I test drive. Then if that doesn't work, I'll start expanding the list. One car I already added is the Buick LaCrosse, based on some things I read. I just hope it's smooth without being bouncy.
     
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    Your welcome. I read or watched video reviews on most of the cars listed. Some did mention a stiffer ride but they might not be too stiff. That is where a test drive is needed.

    Your right about the legroom. That's why I said on paper. You can have two people of the same height and one will fit good in one car and the other won't. Some habe longer legs, some sit different and so on.

    One thing I forgot to mention. If you have more then one person driving the car, a good feature would be memory seats. Part of a comfortable ride is having the seat set just right. With the memory function you can save that perfect setting and put it back after someone else drives it. It saves playing with the seat. My Oldsmobile didn't have that one feature. Once I had the seat just right and my wife changed it. I never could get it in that exact spot again.

    Please keep use updates on your search. It will be good to hear what you add and remove and for what reasons. The LaCrosse was one I was going to put on the list. I forget why I didn't out it on.

    James
     
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    I added the Impala as one to check out. I remember my father's Impala and it dealt with potholes pretty well. I just don't know if the new ones do. I read they are on a different platform now. But I also read they could be the quietest Impala ever made. And I sort of like the way they look.

    The little I read about the VW CC is it's firmer ride than the Passat.

    I guess on all these cars the suspensions are turned to the stock set of wheels. But I'm thinking that maybe I could get smaller third party wheels with bigger tires. Just a thought.

    And that tip about seat memory is a good one. With electric seats it's tricky to get it back to an exact spot.
     
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    I love the look of the new Impala. The only reason I didn't put it on the list was that it was a full sized car. I haven't drove the new new one but I have heard good things about them. I think they they are worth a look.

    Of they have big wheels it should be ok switching to a smaller rim and bigger tire. The main issue is you might be buying one that just isn't perfect for you hoping that you can correct or it. If it works then your good if not you could have a car and rims you don't want anymore.

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    Funny thing, the Impala doesn't look big in the picture, but I guess it really is. I think its front has more of a pony car look so I start to think it's small. But if the mid-size ones don't work out, I'll have to go big. One thing I just read in a Regal forum is they went for more of a "European" ride, which is another way to say it's on firm side. What I need to remember, though, is I might not need the smoothest ride in town.

    Good point about the wheels. I should not get a car that I don't like, hoping to make it better. I have a feelings part of the wheel size is style. And maybe in several years it will look "old." Who knows.

    Anyway, I have plenty of time to research. Right now my health is in a down turn and my caregiver drives me in my car.
     
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    Length wise it's only about a 1.5' longer so it isn't that bad.

    Firm doesn't always mean mean harsh. A harsh rough ride is what I think will bother you firm one might not. That is why it is good to build a list and then start the test drives to feel them out.

    Have you always kept your cars that long?

    I hope your health improves.

    James
     
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    I used to keep cars a long time because of low income. With the Mazda I kept it a long time because I liked the way it drove. I tested other cars along the way, but liked driving the Mazda better. It is halfway between a regular sedan and sport sedan. The one I got is the LX V-6. And even after all this time, no problems with upholstery or paint. Maybe because of covered parking. And no rattles. Thing is though, I might have bought a new car about 5 years ago if illness had not side-tracked my attention.
     
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    I find I keep mine a long time. Income and the rising price of cars if normally the reason. I went in many times to buy a new vehicle and walked because of games they were playing and or the sales persons lack of knowledge on their product. Sometimes I just couldn't justify the payments.

    James
     
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    One thing I remember from buying the Mazda is I test drove every car in that price range and just below. I don't remember how many cars it was. I disliked all but two. I hope I'm not so picky this time out. I'm afraid I won't like anything.

    Anyway, I have been too sick to go car shopping. This could take a long time to do. But at least now I have an idea of where to start.
     
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    My disclaimer is I love American cars. For comfort, I love the Cadillac but for comfort and the most amazing ride I would say the Lincoln ride is unbeatable. I notice they are all getting smaller, but you could probably get a good one owner that is a bit older (due to people dumping the bigger cars based on gas prices) for a much lesser amount than 40,000. I was fortunate to find a 25 year old, one owner, under 100 k miles and it rides like a dream.

    Years back I had a friend with an 80's Lincoln Town Car...It was like riding in a cloud.
     
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    Hopefully one of them will fit you to a t. Test driving a lot of cars is a good thing to do but not everyone does it.

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    Wow! That would make it a 1989? Which model did you get?

    I've been reading and found the Impala just got bigger. The Chevy people said that full size sedans are not sought by families anymore. They get sold to empty-nesters who want excess. The 2014 Impala is built on the same platform as the Cadillac XTS.
     
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    I watched a couple youtube reviews of the Kia Cadenza. One reviewer said it is more refined and better equipped than BMWs and Mercedes in the same price range. Another said it's as good as any Lincoln he's driven.

    I might try this out, but one reviewer said his only complaint is that over sharper bumps and with expansion joints on a concrete freeway the suspension seems too stiff. And that would be an important issue for me.

    Anyway, this is becoming very interesting. I hadn't even thought about Kia before I started.
     
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    So how is the search going @Andrew B. ?

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