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2014 Jaguar XF

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    [​IMG] After the decidedly conservative S-Type, the Jaguar XF brought a fresh new look for the brand, and truly proved that it could take on the likes of the Mercedes-Benz E-Class, BMW 5-Series, even the Audi A6 with a contemporary look of its own. Even into its seventh model year, with its look only mildly smoothed over, the 2014 Jaguar XF...[​IMG]

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    Oh-kay. Where do I start? I didn't even get to the article because the pictures stopped me from even going there. I apologize Jaguar, but I do NOT like the look of this car.
    Jaguars have been my mom's favorite car for I don't know how long. I remember when you could look at a Jaguar from a distance and be able to tell, "That's a Jaguar." This car, looks nothing like a Jaguar to me. Contemporary look? Is that what they are calling this monstrosity? I'm sorry. I'm just not feeling it. And that fin on the back? Just no.

    I must admit that I have seen some newer Jaguars that look very nice and elegant, but this is not one of them. Maybe I just need to give this page a rest for a few days and come back to it with perhaps a different perspective.
     
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    Really? One look at this picture and I was sold.

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    Other then the Jag emblem, it doesn't scream Jag as most would remember them but I love it. That is sexy to me.

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    Really, one look at this picture and you were sold? Really? Why? Because it doesn't scream Jaguar? What's the point of having a Jaguar, when, if you park it in the parking lot and walk away from it, from a distance it looks like a Honda? or one of the million other generic cars that look just. like. this. No offence to Honda, but if I'm handing out all that cash for a Jaguar, may I at least have something that doesn't look so generic? It looks like a Dodge or something.

    Again, you and I are going to have to disagree. Maybe it is that fin thing that is throwing me off, because this car just looks so common. And it shouldn't.
    I mean, yeah, I guess, if I put my hand over the computer screen to block out the fin, this car does look okay I guess. But I still think that for the price tag, it should look more... elegant, maybe? Hell, I don't know.
     
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    Lol. We agree as much as my wife and I do.

    It looks nothing like a Honda to me. I figured out the issue before reading your whole post and you confirmed it the end.

    You have that classic Jag style and elegant look and feel in your mind. The problem is, this is Jags sporty more performance driven model. Jaguar has had many performance cars over the years.

    This car grabs my attention in traffic. Almost every time I say "Damn what is that?". Then I realize seconds later. A Honda never crosses my mind when I see that car. I think sport luxury when I see it.

    I still like the classic look but this style has a place in my heart as well.

    James
     
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    You wife sounds like a smart, educated, well-bred woman. I like that:thumbsup:.

    You know, I mean okay, I guess this Jaguar is kind of sporty, and I do have to admit that it has a sort of powerful presence when you are next to one, like in the lane next to you in traffic. But from across the parking lot, I don't think that in a sea of cars, you could pick this car out as a Jaguar, especially with a hundred other cars that seem to look just like this one does. People are really getting really boring with their car designs.

    And yes, I like a classic and elegant feel. Class and elegance are in my top 10 of favorite attributes to have. It's not that I want the Jaguar engineers to make a car that looks just like the models of the past, but this car just isn't giving me that vibe that I have come to expect from Jaguar.

    I want to upload a picture of a Maserati on here (but I don't know how so I'll have to wait until my son is home from school), now that is something that makes me stop and stare:wideeye:.
    I've seen a couple of new Jaguars, not many, but they looked better than this one for some reason. And it's not that they had the classic lines of a Jaguar either, it was just something different about them.

    Perhaps it is that fin on the back of the car that really bothers me, it makes the whole car look so cheap.
     
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    Your free to disagree with me. I think this stands out in almost any parking lot.

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    Look at that grill, the shape of the lights, the hood and louvers. That front end is sexy and would eat a Honda for lunch.

    The lower XF model does not come with a spoiler.

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    Since you don't like spoilers, I'm sure this 550 hp beast does nothing at all for you.

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    And the interior...SEXY!!! :woot: A stick shift and a third pedal would make it that much better.

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    First of all, you just have to be right, don't you Flexin'? I'm not mad at that though.

    A. First picture, yes, I disagree. The grill does nothing for me, the shape of the lights is boring:sleep: :sleep:, the hood has way too much going on, and I have no idea what a louver is, but I'm sure that I'd hate that too.

    I find nothing sexy about this car at all. It looks powerful but it also looks cheap. If I had to choose, the only reason that I would drive this car as opposed to a Honda is because other people would know that this is an expensive car. Superficial, but truth.

    B. The second picture of the blue Jaguar is beautiful. Clean, elegant. I kinda don't like the bit below the grill, how it ends so abruptly (I would like it a lot better if it curved at the bottom), but I could deal with that I suppose. Overall: Beautiful car.

    C. Third car, grey and black, gets points for being 550 hp.
    But even without the "spoiler" (aptly named by the way, because it is spoiling everything),
    this is an ugly car. It may be powerful, but it does nothing for me as far as looks are concerned. I would not drive it unless I had to.

    D. Forth picture. I agree with you. The interior is very sexy. Beautiful, in fact. A stick shift and a third pedal would give it a look of power, and would make the interior look that much better. Agreed.
     
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    LOL. That is what my wife would say. That isn't the case. I'm just explaining my side of it. When it comes to look its all personal opinion so we both can be right.

    What made me explain my point was the Honda Accord comment. I like Accords but they don't compare to that Jag at all. And I feel it would be easy to pick out the Jag in a parking lot full of these.

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    As far as the first two go. They are the same car, just a different trim level. The one you like has more laid back (Guy- Let's Chill) styling. The first one is more in your face (like Jimi Hendrix's guitar).

    The point you made about the lower part of the bumper is the reason designers must go crazy. I love that part but you hate it.

    I can tell that you don't like sporty/race inspired designs. There is nothing wrong with that. BTW I love the fact that you can pin point what you like and don't like about something. :thumbsup:

    James
     
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    I suppose we both can be right. Looks are personal, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. That being said, no I guess I don't really like the sporty/race inspired designs that you have shown me here, however, I don't think that I am opposed to all sporty and race inspired designs. To be honest though, I would not even want to ride in either of these sporty/race inspired cars that you have shown here. No thank you.

    I'm not saying that an Accord compares to a Jaguar, but even you have to admit (even as stubborn as you seem to be), that cars now-a-days seem to all lean towards a certain "look." That same generic body-type. You know what I'm talking about.

    The Honda and the elegant, blue Jaguar have a similar look, even tho the blue Jag is much more elegant.

    I get that the Jaguars in the first two pics are the same car, just different. However, I disagree that the one I like is more "Guy-Let's Chill" laid back. I would say that the one I like is more elegant, like clear diamonds, old money, and fine Champagne. The XFR-S however, does not remind me of Jimi Hendrix, but instead smacks of new money, bragging, and ostentation.

    All that being said however, after giving it a lot of thought, if I am being totally honest, I must admit (and it pains:blackeye: :inpain: me to say this), the XFR-S in kind of growing on me. (I changed my mind a bit. It happens. And don't tell me that you were right after all. Not a word:stop:. I don't want to hear it.)
     
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    I don't think I'm stubborn. Maybe I wrong and I am stubborn. I just stand by my opinion and I enjoy the conversation.

    The Accord and Jag are both 4 door sedans and that is where the similarities stop. The Accord is nice. The Jag drops my jaw every time I see it. It has more style. It has the look.

    The first is more in your face. But for some, both are bragging.

    I can't remember what car it was but I hated it when I first saw it. After a while my opinion changed. It happens.

    BTW, my wife read the thread and she agrees with you. She didn't resound because banned her for not agreeing with me. :roflmao: Just kidding. She did agree with you and I'm sure she will jump in and say or piece soon.

    James
     
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    So, your wife agreed with me? I like that woman more and more every day.

    I disagree that you aren't stubborn, but of course you are going to say that you are not, all stubborn people say that, ironically:hilarious:. I say that you are stubborn because you were determined to get the point across that--that first Jaguar is the bomb dot com. You posted pictures, you stated your case, until finally after I had to look at that picture for so long, you made me change my mind ( a little bit, a teeny-tiny, itsy-bitsy bit).

    I also say you are stubborn because when I first commented about this car, I wrote, let me give this page a rest for a few days and come back to it. You did not let a few days pass, you immediately went about the business of changing my mind. Not mad at that though, it's good when a person stands by their opinion. I like to stand by my opinion too, even if I end up changing my mind :inpain: :arghh:.

    I can't believe that you say that the similarities stop with the fact that the two cars are both 4 door sedans. You are a car man. You just have to have noticed that many of the car engineers out here have all but abandoned the classic lines of their brand and have jumped on the bandwagon with the rest of the engineers in the car making world who seem to make the. same. car. over. and. over. again. You have to see that.

    In one of your previous posts you said that Jaguar has had many performance cars out over the years. Perhaps my problem is that I have not noticed them, because the body-type on the XF seems to me 1) to have come out of the blue, and 2) a copy of the other "generic" body types. Again, you know what I am talking about. But then again, perhaps you don't. Hell, what kind of cars are on the road where you live? Maybe you really don't know what I'm talking about.

    All that being said, granted the Jaguar is a much more beautiful and elegant car than the Honda, no one can dispute that, however, they both basically have the same body type.

    I don't see how anyone could consider driving that elegant Jaguar to be bragging. I just don't see that. It has a calm presence about it, not all kinds of stuff on the hood screaming "Look at me, look at me!!" No spoiler on the back screaming the same thing, no aggressive grill. In my opinion, there is nothing braggadocious about the elegant Jag, other than the fact that people would know it costs Money.
     
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    Because owning a Jaguar means you have money. Some just get jealous.

    I posted my comments to give you more to think on during that few days not to get you to post right away.

    I say that because they are both four door sedans. Its closer then the old larger Jags would be but still see it as apples and oranges. (I'm at work so I'm typing this on my phone when I have a free second so it has taken a couple of hours so far. I decided I do agree that the "basic" shape is the same but with that said they look nothing alike. People have been saying cars will all look the same in X amount of years. They have been saying that for 15+ years now. They copy some things but for the most part, most off the cars look different. The ones that matter to me do anyway. )

    I wasn't really trying to change your mind
    , just more or less give the reasons for my opinion. I know that if you had the cash in hand and walked In the showroom, you might fine more or less that you like about the first but you would still turn and out your money on the second because that is more your style.

    I have no problem with the second. I would want custom rims to make it stand out more. As for a spoiler. If I owned the first I would leave it. On one that didn't have one I wouldn't add one. As a child u would on some cars but not now.

    If you look at the first two cars, I think the
    bumpers are the same just that the first is blacked out which makes it more aggressive. Its amazing what a few small changes can do to a car. Sometimes it's good changes. Sometimes it can ruin the look completely.

    James
     
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