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Can you heel and toe?

Discussion in 'General Automotive Talk' started by Daimashin, Mar 11, 2014.

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  1. Daimashin

    Daimashin Active Member Founding Member

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    I've tried to do this technique last time when I drove a manual shift. I think I have bad coordination so no matter how I tried, I could never master it. Anyone here is a veteran of heel and toe? If you are, do you have any tips to share?
     
  2. Gelsemium

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    I am not even sure what you mean with heel and toe, is that a technique for what?
     
  3. Rivethead

    Rivethead Active Member Founding Member

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    It is indeed a driving technique. There is an illustrated How To here if you are curious.
     
  4. Ricardo187

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    Heal & Toe consists of basically matching revs when downshifting so you won't feel the downshifting so hard and the car won't suddenly slow down as soon as you release the clutch.

    For example, when you're driving at 50 kmph on third gear and you want to slow down & downshift, if you simply engage second, as soon as you release the clutch, the car will either slow down out of a sudden or if you accelerate too much, it'll go faster. It's also uncomfortable. This technique is usually used when you want to stop using the brakes & engine as a braking auxiliar. You downshift, rev the engine a bit using your heel(while you use your toe to brake) so that the engine will meet the revs for the new gear(lower in this case).

    It makes sense since driving at the same speed or only a bit lower in a lower gear implies the engine turning in higher revs.

    I know my text is a bit confuse, I lack the words to describe & explain exactly what I want. Basically yeah, I can Heel & Toe quite well. All you need is to know your vehicle and how to meet the right revs.
     
  5. Gelsemium

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    Thanks for answers guys, I will become an expert in expressions in English on how to drive! :D
     
  6. Daimashin

    Daimashin Active Member Founding Member

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    @Ricardo187 That's actually a pretty good explanation on the concept. However, I'm still struggling to do it even though I know how to do it in theory. Maybe it's the angle of my foot or something.
     
  7. Flexin

    Flexin Admin Staff Member Founding Member Top Event

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    Because if the location of the pedals, some cars would be harder to do it in.

    James
     
  8. Ricardo187

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    That. It's actually easier if you have sport pedals.
     
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    Flexin Admin Staff Member Founding Member Top Event

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    Here is a video on this technique.



    James
     
  10. Daimashin

    Daimashin Active Member Founding Member

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    Thanks for the video. I still can't grasp the technique but at least I have more understanding on it now. I think I'll have to go to a local track for practice.
     
  11. Gelsemium

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    So basically we just manage how much gas we are allowing in right?
     
  12. iRichard

    iRichard Member Founding Member

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    Yeah, the heel and toe technique looks hard. I don't think I will be trying this on the road or I might crash my car. Thanks for sharing this! It looks really interesting.
     
  13. Gelsemium

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    It doesn't look easy at all that is true and I think I haven't grasped it just yet, I think I'll need to have someone by my side teaching me.
     
  14. Strykstar

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    Thanks for the video Flexin, the video helped me a lot, I was struggling to grasp the concept but I think it was just because of the deceptive name, the heel isn't used at all!
    I have to try this technique out, but only when I'm sure I have no one around me.
     
  15. Windsor62

    Windsor62 New Member

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    I have never tried to heel and toe, I learned to downshift by double declutching. I engage the clutch, shift to neutral, and then blip the throttle a bit to match the revs, then I engage the clutch again and shift into the gear I want. It sounds like a lot but the first clutch engage is really just a blip to get out the higher gear.
     
  16. rosa

    rosa Active Member Top Contributor

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    I was slow at learning to drive a manual so doing heel and toe would be way down on my to do list. I haven't checked it out yet but it also sounds like a risky move and I am just not a risk taker.
     
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